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limjamrace



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Safety cage! Reply with quote

Something that i noticed within the C/N GT i saw last Saturday of Mark Woodhouse is that it had no safety cage..
I am aware that the chassis has a built in F&R hoop of such deformity ,but no hoop above the head!!!
How did it get through the scruitineer?
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klaus



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

david methley put a roll-over bar at the rear part of drivers cabin, was it removed?
back in the 1960ies it was allowed to to drive this way, but today, they demand for such savety-parts.
i know that from the lotus-47 owners, who also have the problem, to get something like a rollcage into their cars, where at last is no real space to fit it properly.
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limjamrace



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i had a good look all over the vehicle and no sign of the hoop with struts!
Perhaps the scruitineer had a Labrador!

There are a number of other pictures by a guy called Giraffe on my thread Autosort Nostagia.. Books..An Adventurous Life, i'll check his photos!
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Nick



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone recently stated on the Imp Club Forum, there are 32 (?) Ferrari 250 GTOs ever made, a fair few of which are currently campaigned and worth, according to a well known UK radio DJ, £12m. My point is, which brave scrutineer is going to tell them to fit an FIA cage thereby compromising an important piece of motorsport history before they can go play?

One can race a vintage Bentley without a setbelt...indeed one can drive a road car built in or before 1965 without one. One can race an F1 car built 20 years ago without today's stringent crash test resilience. Personal safety consists of mandatory fireproof clothing and helmet (unless you're Sir Stirling Moss - well done that man for wearing what he damn well pleases!). Historic racing is, was and hopefully always will be about celebrating that particular era and all that that entails riskwise. I say let individuals have that choice within reason.

Fitting a roll hoop is I should imagine a relatively simple task to a Costin-Nathan - the fact that the rear frame bolts onto the tub lends itself to suitable mounting points. Your choice (scrutineers permitting), extra weight over extra safety...but the fundamental thing is that it should be YOUR CHOICE.

I'll get off of my soap box now...sorry and all that.
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limjamrace



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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that if the individual who has private means instead of marshalls on the track or a police force to pick up your bits along the road in a bag then your've probably got something there!
Sometimes i do think that the MSA on point do go a bit overboard...Every year brings out more legistration on rules to put expense and awkwardness to get started in Motorsport!
As far as safety cages or devices are concerned if it can be enclosed to making a good chassis i'm all for it!

Do we expect you to start wearing a turban soon Nick whilst riding your motorcycle as a protest!
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